View Full Version : more power to the rear on the devil
fr4nk15
01-29-2009, 10:31 PM
could someone PLEASE HELP this is driving me up the wall i went bashing today in a part gravel part dirt car park with some jumps.
and all i got was to much power through the front wheels is there any way i can change this through locking a diff or all of the diffs and how can i do this would like to get 60/40 to the rear or even 70/30 would be nice is there any way i can achieve this.
any help would be much apreciated thanks.
VertigoPerformance
01-30-2009, 01:31 AM
Thick oil in the center diff is the only way. The front wheels unload as the front end lifts under acceleration.
mradlin
01-30-2009, 01:25 PM
I locked up my center diff on my Titan with JB weld, but I took it out because I kept stripping the rear ring gear. :mad: Now I'm in the process of putting FG alum diffs in my Titan and tuning them with oils. http://5thscaleracingforum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2397 This should work much better.
fr4nk15
01-30-2009, 04:09 PM
thanks i will start with the oil and go from there. thought about locking the centre diff completely but if it strips teeth of then i will give it a miss.
found this part on the net
HT Aluminum limited slip differential conversion kit Gas/Hell Devil/Thunderbolt, y0929, set
from www.rc-car-online-shop.de.
what do you guys think of this ?
mradlin
01-30-2009, 04:50 PM
I've seen it, but I never saw one in use. Let us know how you like it if you get one. :D
pwaicon
01-30-2009, 05:53 PM
I am using an FG adjustable diff with great results, I believe it is the same as the one Hobbythek sells. I did need to shim the diff housing opposite of the gear ring to get the gear mesh correct, without the shims the gears will slip. I am also running alloy diff supports which I think helps with any flexing which could lead to stripping out the ring gear.
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I locked it up by my own. No problem sofar. This weekend is the test with the locked centerdiff on the beach and the dunes. Let you guys know how that worked out.:)
fr4nk15
01-30-2009, 11:45 PM
looks like i have no choice but to buy one.
some interesting solution easy if you have the correct tools to hand.
thanks for the suggestion looks like there is no cheap solution on this one lol.
thanks once again every one keep up the good work.
Test with the locked center diff worked out pretty well. But..look at the picture, thats called Body language!! Have to buy a new one now. But the sound at the movie is very nice! If the link is not working, look at Youtube: GAS DEVIL KEES :D
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtg6olya1M
Kees.
mradlin
02-01-2009, 07:10 PM
The Gas Devil looks like it's really going well!! Great Vid!!
It's a very nice place to play..sand en dunes as far as you can see! The plan is to buy a Beetle body. Do you think it fits on the Gas devil chassis?
Kees
mradlin
02-01-2009, 07:32 PM
I have seen them. As soon as my wife lets me I'm purchasing one for mine. :D They look like they were made for them.
fr4nk15
02-01-2009, 08:23 PM
and how much do you want for 1 of those diffs lol.
great vid will post one up the next time i go bashig.
fr4nk15
02-01-2009, 10:16 PM
this happend today after some serious jumps in all though a great day out.:D
mradlin
02-02-2009, 01:36 AM
Wow! It looks like it took a good beating!! What kind of boost bottles are those?
fr4nk15
02-02-2009, 04:54 PM
hi i got them from bis tec racing they work a treat.
not in out right performance but in the fact that they smooth out throttle, much better idle, and there is no chokeing at full speed worth the money i paid 40 pounds including delivery,that was for 2 anodised aluminium bottles, pipes and ported manifold. realy good quality stuff they also do a nitrous kit may be a bit over the top.
fr4nk15, that boost bottles looks very good. Is that mod working? Because there ar different opinions over this subject. What is you experiance?
Kees.
and how much do you want for 1 of those diffs lol.
great vid will post one up the next time i go bashig.
I have to buy material, but i think if i can send it by normal post it will be arroud 55 euro.
Let me know.
pwaicon
02-03-2009, 02:02 AM
It's a very nice place to play..sand en dunes as far as you can see! The plan is to buy a Beetle body. Do you think it fits on the Gas devil chassis?
Kees
The Beetle body is a great choice and like Mradlin said it looks like they were made for them. Here is my Titan, same as the Gas Devil, with the Beetle body.
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mradlin
02-03-2009, 02:19 AM
hi i got them from bis tec racing they work a treat.
not in out right performance but in the fact that they smooth out throttle, much better idle, and there is no chokeing at full speed worth the money i paid 40 pounds including delivery,that was for 2 anodised aluminium bottles, pipes and ported manifold. realy good quality stuff they also do a nitrous kit may be a bit over the top.
They look really nice. I'll have to look into a set of these to try out for myself.
fr4nk15
02-03-2009, 05:11 PM
like i said before dont look for power gains.
from my point of view they smoothed out throttle response and eliminated top end spluttering these thing seem to cause such a stir with people.
i think it boils down to people can not tune there engine correctly you need to go right back to the start when you install these even down to your idle screw.
the only thing i noticed was the devil seemed to pick up faster from take off.
have not checked for speed yet as usally strap my sat nav to it.
will let you know when i do at the moment we are snowed in lol.
The Beetle body is a great choice and like Mradlin said it looks like they were made for them. Here is my Titan, same as the Gas Devil, with the Beetle body.
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Beautiful!! Very nice painting. Defintly buy the Beetle. Only have to practice on the paint job.:eek:
like i said before dont look for power gains.
from my point of view they smoothed out throttle response and eliminated top end spluttering these thing seem to cause such a stir with people.
i think it boils down to people can not tune there engine correctly you need to go right back to the start when you install these even down to your idle screw.
the only thing i noticed was the devil seemed to pick up faster from take off.
have not checked for speed yet as usally strap my sat nav to it.
will let you know when i do at the moment we are snowed in lol.
Thanks. Seen some bad weather in the UK.
Keep up the fun.
fr4nk15
02-04-2009, 06:41 PM
had great fun the other night in the snow got 3 vid but they will not seem to upload ? very bizzare.
any ideas why not tried as a avi file jpeg,mp4 just will not work.
although i have posted it on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDin_30eK50
when edited preoperly it should b about 10 to 15 min long had to keep stopping as my metal air filter kept freezin k&n version.:cool:
p.s my 10 year old son was camera man for the vid.
mradlin
02-04-2009, 07:25 PM
Cool vid! The Devil seems to like the snow!! I don't know why the vids would n't upload, but post them up like you did this one.
had great fun the other night in the snow got 3 vid but they will not seem to upload ? very bizzare.
any ideas why not tried as a avi file jpeg,mp4 just will not work.
although i have posted it on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDin_30eK50
when edited preoperly it should b about 10 to 15 min long had to keep stopping as my metal air filter kept freezin k&n version.:cool:
p.s my 10 year old son was camera man for the vid.
Very good shooting camera man!!
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