shocks

[Akela]

well we all know that the stock baja shocks are not the best. So how are we going to fix this? I saw that someone is making a bigger diameter sock shaft, but is this the fix? I say no, this may cause other issues. I say this because when the shock is fully compressed, it is full of fluid. But when the shock is fully extended, how can it still be full of fluid?

I find the major problem with the shocks is the amount of piston slop. I think taking care of this would help stop the shafts from bending.

Any other thoughts?

[VertigoPerformance]

Piston slop is a serious problem and the main problem. I have been informed buy a titanium guru that Ti will not solve the problem.. Using larger shock shafts pose their own issues especially if you use the stock O rings, they are too small for the shafts.. I am hoping HPI is working on something because I think for the average user shocks seem to be the only issue.. Akela and I had our buggies out this weekend in a sand pit.. WHAT A BLAST!!!

[Budmancan]

But how cool would it be to say you have Ti shock shafts. Half the upgrades I do is based on that factor only. If it gets me 5 mental horsepower then thats great.

[VertigoPerformance]

LOL!! It would be cool...

[Rock Concepts]

I have neen running 20wt fork oil on the biggest piston setting and only bent shaft during real hard crash type of landings. I love to jump my baja, I am one of the guys in the dumont videos from HPI and only bent one shaft last time during a flat landing about 60' out.

[Akela]

guess I'll try the biggest setting on the piston

[Rock Concepts]

run the back of your car high, dont try to set it up like a normal rc car, on normal rc car we run the arms or bone level, I like my Baja with just alittle sage, and I run the front about the same

[mradlin]

I did notice that when you run with aluminum a arms;) the shafts seem to bend less often.

[Rock Concepts]

Yes It Keeps the shocks inline more so they dont bind as easy, I moved the bottom of the shock foward about 1/4 inch

[mradlin]

And they do work good too! I guess the wife was right after all, a 1/4 of an inch CAN make a difference! LOL! :D

[Vertigo Performance]

I run my shocks 3 turns further (3mm) Jumps far nicer than stock setting.

[phatdad]

well we all know that the stock baja shocks are not the best. So how are we going to fix this? I saw that someone is making a bigger diameter sock shaft, but is this the fix? I say no, this may cause other issues. I say this because when the shock is fully compressed, it is full of fluid. But when the shock is fully extended, how can it still be full of fluid?

I find the major problem with the shocks is the amount of piston slop. I think taking care of this would help stop the shafts from bending.

Any other thoughts?


I have been testing a larger dia shock shaft with a new lower cap
and i will say for the averge baja owner this will be a great setup.
I did bend the rears one time testing,came up short on a huge double.
that landing would have bent anything.For now i use 20% over springs
from ddm,15wt hd oil and damping hole on large opening.Was thinking
about moding fg shocks but they cost alot of money to mess with.

[VertigoPerformance]

Over springing and under dampening can cause a whole bank of problems itself.. Are you noticing any extra bounce when cruisin' high speed on bumpy terrain?

[Rock Concepts]

The only time I bend shock shaft are when I am jumping HUGE and it does not land right.

Large holes 15-20 wt.

[phatdad]

Over springing and under dampening can cause a whole bank of problems itself.. Are you noticing any extra bounce when cruisin' high speed on bumpy terrain?

I agree with ya on that one.Its not very bumpy were i drive so it seems to be very stable.Its hard to find that sweet set up for all conditions,thats what makes it fun for me.I wish i had three bajas one for the track another for bashing and one for hauling ass in the desert.

[Rock Concepts]

What tell you go to the dunes ,you will want to biuld a high HP sand monster like I am doing now.:cool:

[phatdad]

Make that four bajas. One for the dunes as well,big motor and paddels = big smile on your face.

[Rock Concepts]

We all need to make a date for Dumont and play. Sorry, I keep forgetting you guys are all over the world.

[Vertigo Performance]

Yah well with 2 bajas here maybe I should set one up for street and one for off road.. Sand paddles being shipped next week.. new bead locks.. A arms..... It feels like Christmas!!!

[Rock Concepts]

You havent tried paddles yet? everyone that goes to the dune cant wait to go back. do you guys have sand dunes?

[Vertigo Performance]

We can't get them shipped until next week... we don't have much for dunes but do have nice sand pits and a huge long beach at low tide.. should have them locked and loaded for the 21st.

[Rock Concepts]

When I goto sand I take all of the toe in out of the rear, and raise the whole car up. the softer the sand the better. The roost is about 3' high and 20' out AWSOME. there is no traction prob. at all

[Vertigo Performance]

Take the toe out.. How the rear toe differs in the sand? I May just try it when the paddles arrive..

[Rock Concepts]

The paddles have so much foward bit you dont need toe in. less toe means less tire drag, better roll and better speed. and with the front razors tire if you let off the gas and turn it will flip. lots of turning

[VertigoPerformance]

Thanks and that sounds exiting CAN'T WAIT!!

[Akela]

Think im going to the beach when I get my paddles, was there the other day and I forgot how long of a straight run I can get!

[Vertigo Performance]

Paddles? what paddles?? LOL!!!

Hey I notice that the tires turns on the rim, is this a big problem with the paddles having all that traction?

[Rock Concepts]

No I have not had a problem at all I have not ran it in wet sand thou, I like really soft blow sand the kind you step in and you sink in. wet sand should be cool for wheeling

[VertigoPerformance]

We have very long flat beaches at low tide..

[Rock Concepts]

Get The HORSE POWER out, Ya Babe!!!!

[brianlt31]

I've got a couple of questions....

I've noticed on two of my shocks, the threaded collar moves quite a bit. If I hold the shock and pull up and push down on the collar it moves alot more than it should. Just wondering if anybody else has this issue.

Why does HPI tell you not to use synthetic shock oil in the shocks.

Thanks,

Brian

[VertigoPerformance]

They suggest fork oil because they weren't wanting people to user higher than 20wt shock oil..

Fork oil is $9.00 a quart so much better deal, I use Belray.

The Adjusting nut I set it then put blue loctite into the thread and it doesn't move.